Kubicast #167 – Platform Rock's and Roll with Gui Santos

Another episode of Kubicast is live! And this time, we chatted with Gui Santos, founder of the Platform Engineering Brazil community, about how to build platforms that truly deliver value for developers and business alike — without getting lost in the hype.

But this isn't just any conversation about the topic. Gui brought a practical, direct view filled with real learnings — without beating around the bush and without empty hype.

What went down in this episode:

• The difference between building a platform and actually delivering real value

• How to know if your platform engineering is truly working

• The relationship between DevX, product, and organizational culture

• The risks of packaging tools without a purpose

• And of course... where Rock 'n' Roll fits into all of this 🤘

Furthermore, we talked about metrics, frustrating experiences, technical leadership, and the virtual "chicken flying with Kubernetes" — an analogy you'll want to remember.

Quotes to live by:

“DevX is less about tooling and more about culture.”
“If your platform doesn't help developers deliver faster, it's just another problem.”
“You need to think of the platform as a product with real users.”

Useful links:

• Gui Santos - https://www.linkedin.com/in/guilherme-dos-santos/

• Platform Rocks - https://www.platform.rocks/

• Gui's Other Links - https://linktr.ee/guiofsaints

• João Brito - https://www.linkedin.com/in/juniorjbn/

• Recommendation - https://www.netflix.com/br/title/81918362

🎧 Listen as well to Kubicast on Spotify, share it with your team that is currently deploying backstage :D

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